11:11:31 From Gene Gendel : Good part_of_day folks! After the event, the video, slides and other assets will be posted here: https://www.keystepstosuccess.com/2020/12/12-13-less-talks-case-study-about-a-less-adoption-in-ing-business-lending-by-cesario-ramos/ 11:24:14 From Joel Robinson - Redmond, WA USA : “Connecting the dots” team reminds me of Nexus Scrum (from what I’ve read) 11:31:29 From Andreea Rada : Q1.: Any analysis that looked at work item flows per type of work (project, vertical) across teams? Q2.: Any analysis of the ratios of rework efforts per work item (rework is for exp tech debt, misimplementation, defects, etc.) 11:32:48 From Waldemar Schneider : Q ?: How did you get buy-in, and collaborate with leadership? How were they active/ involved? 11:39:04 From Waldemar Schneider : Q ?: What would you do differently, approaching a similar case today? 11:39:47 From Liza / Denmark : Q: Is/was there any (good old ;) mainframe development involved (e.g. Cobol or similar)? 11:42:28 From Waldemar Schneider : Q?: Why "Overall Retro" after the planning for next iteration? - and not after the Squad Retros (before planning next ...)? 11:43:45 From Jubin Gosar : Are these joint sprint planning meetings or PI planning meeting (PI = program increment)? 11:43:47 From Chadwick Lau : Q: As there were only have 2 Agile Coaches, how do ING transform to LeSS to fill up multiple Scrum Master in teams? 2 AC to coach all teams? 11:44:10 From Liza / Denmark : Q: Did you use any particular principle when deciding the priority of stories/features? E.g. Cost of Delay, Weighted Shortest Job First, etc. ? 11:45:14 From Andreea Rada : Q.> How was reliability measured? Which tresholds were used to decide prod.team were reliable enough? 11:45:20 From Liza / Denmark : Q: How many teams did you end up with? Sorry if I overheard you telling this already 11:46:22 From Waldemar Schneider : https://agilix.nl/case-study/large-dutch-bank-our-journey-towards-agility-at-scale/ 11:46:31 From Armin M. Hoffmann : Q: How do the new reporting lines look like? How is skill development managed in the new Setting? 11:47:16 From Joel Robinson - Redmond, WA USA : I’d like to talk more about how CI investments helped w/scaling 11:47:17 From Andreea Rada : Did someone ask the org why on earth they would implement chapters as reporting lines? There is something obviously cheeky there and ask the client about the thinking that led to that mispractice is undoubtedly interesting 11:48:00 From Laura : How did organisation change after the changes your implemented? HR reporting lines....what is the best recommendation you could give? 11:49:33 From Waldemar Schneider : Q?: Measure - What metrcis did you use/ visualized for your "transformation", to show the ROI etc.? 11:49:33 From Karen Zanetti : One of your initial observations was the initiative was poorly aligned on overall goals. How did this happen? What was missing? What to do at the beginning so this does not happen in other projects? 11:53:52 From Liza / Denmark : Thank you!! 11:54:19 From Karen Zanetti : At what point should mindsets like: not only picking up lower value items but also picking up high value items that are a challenge and will take more time so that the teams can learn and ultimately speed up. 11:54:52 From Jubin Gosar : Sure, got it. 11:55:08 From Jubin Gosar : More questions if there is an opportunity to speak. 11:59:29 From Liza / Denmark : YES - we are experiencing the same in Europe :( 12:00:17 From Jubin Gosar : I don't think there is an issue with scaling. 12:00:28 From Jubin Gosar : It's an issue of focusing on the business value. 12:01:10 From Jubin Gosar : We have a successful implementation of scaled agile and focusing on the business value. 12:01:32 From Andreea Rada : Hendrik Kniberg says a lot about the spotify model and why it is a bad choice for most organizations, even spotify moved beyond it now 12:01:46 From Andreea Rada : it was good for what Spotify needded at that moment in time of theoir development 12:02:07 From David Nielsen : Thank you Cesario 12:02:20 From Andreea Rada : there is quite some literatire around it, but lots of organizations are still trying to use it 12:02:30 From Liza / Denmark : Thank you Cesario and Gene et.al. Very interesting talk!! Enjoy the Sunday! 12:02:33 From Gene Gendel : https://www.keystepstosuccess.com/2020/12/12-13-less-talks-case-study-about-a-less-adoption-in-ing-business-lending-by-cesario-ramos/ 12:02:38 From Garfield Ying : Thanks Cesario and Gene 12:02:40 From Andreea Rada : @cesario: I am following Agilix on LIN now 12:02:50 From oscar : Thanks a lot, will help/strengthen to discuss this 12:02:54 From Andreea Rada : hope to collaborate in the future, from Duesseldorf :-) 12:02:58 From Karen Zanetti : Thanks for sharing your wisdom and expertise! 12:02:58 From Guido Vogel : Thanks very much for sharing your insights! 12:02:58 From Laura : Thank you very much. It is inspiring to try and not let go 12:03:00 From Jubin Gosar : Thank you for the efforts to share this wonderful journey. 12:03:07 From Robin Hyman : Many thanks! 12:03:07 From Waldemar Schneider : Cheers from CAN, and now from sunny Mex ;) - saludos 12:03:10 From Cheryl : thank you, very insightful 12:03:15 From Jubin Gosar : Thanks Cesario and Gene. Appreciate it. 12:03:23 From Maribel Ravelo : Thank you! 12:03:24 From Waldemar Schneider : Very good work Cesario, thanks for sharing your passion buddy 12:03:25 From Roman Kohoutek (Agile Coach, CZ) : Thank you, have a nice day. 12:03:32 From Andreea Rada : BYE! 12:03:33 From Mal in NYC : Great session! Thanks, all, for pulling tis together.